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This section lists the exchange between Rakewell and LYONTEK to find out why the RAM chip fails.

LYONTEK - LY62W10248ML-55LLI - SRAM, 8M, 1MX8, 2.7-5.5V, 44TSOPII

This memory chip is a 'drop-in' replacement for the BSI chip (see below).

TESTED FAILS when loading a file in PipeDream.

Manufacture response:-

We have read the information on web-site provided from customer. Just as customer said, yes, the circuit diagram is pretty straightforward. We can not  find an problem from that. Just we know, the major differences between our parts and BSI's are the design on ESD protection devices, shown as below. We use type 2 on our parts, but BSI uses type 1 without using P-diode,Dp. We wondered  if this could be the issue. Maybe, we need to make some tests on customer's AP board to learn the real situations.

My response :-

Sorry about the delay in replying but I have been comparing the specs between both these chips and running more tests.

Where do we go from here?

I just can’t believe it is a timing issue because the Z80 is running at 3.2768 Mhz. A read or write command takes 3 clock cycles. This gives 915.52734375 nS and the device only needs 55.

How can we test and see what is happening? Have you got any suitable test equipment?

 

Technical Spec of a Flash and RAM chips

  Z80 4MHz

A29040B Flash

BS62LV8001

AS6C8008

LY62W10248-55

CY62158ELL-45ZSXI 

Supply Voltage Min

V  2.42.7

2.7

4.5
Supply Voltage Typ  -3.03.05.0
Supply Voltage MaxV  5.55.55.55.5

Input High Voltage

2.2 to VCC

0.7 x VCC min

to VCC+0.3

2.2 to VCC+0.3

2.4 to VCC+0.3

2.4 to VCC+0.5

2.2 to VCC + 0.5 V

Input Low Voltage

V-0.3 to 0.8

0.5 to 0.8

-0.5 to 0.8

- 0.2 to 0.6

- 0.2 to 0.6

 –0.5 to 0.8

Output High Voltage

V2.4 min0.85 x VCC

2.4 min

2.4 min  2.4 min

Output Low Voltage

V0.4 max0.45

0.4 max

0.4 max

 

0.4  max

Standby Power 

uA 1

3.5 to 50

6 to 8010 to 50 2 to 8
Power ConsumptionmA  20 - 40396030 to 60 1.8 to 3

VCC for Data Retention

V  1.52.01.5 2.0
Read Timings       
Read Cycle Time tRC  ns 55 min55 min55 min55 min 45 min
Address Access Time tAA   55 min 55 max55 max55 max 45 max

Chip Enable Access Time tACE 

  55 min55 max55 max55 max45 max
Output Enable Access Time tOE   30 max25 max30 max 30 max22 max
Chip Enable to Output in Low-Z tCLZ   18 min10 min10 min10 min5 min
Output Enable to Output in Low-Z tOLZ   18 min10 min5 min 5 min10 min
Chip Disable to Output in High-Z tCHZ    30 max20 max20 max18 max 

Output Disable to Output in High-Z tOHZ

   25 max20 max20 max

18 max 

Output Hold from Address Change tOH

  10 min10 min10 min10 min
Write Timings       

Write Cycle Time tWC

  55 min 55 min55 min 55 min45 min

Address Valid to End of Write tAW

  40 min 40 min50 min50 min 

35 min 

Chip Enable to End of Write tCW 

   050 min 50 min

35 min

Address Set-up Time tAS 

  040 min035 min

Write Pulse Width tWP 

  20 min30 min45 min45 min35 min 

Write Recovery Time tWR 

  00 

Data to Write Time Overlap tDW 

   25 min25 min25 min 25 min25 min

Data Hold from End of Write Time tDH 

  0000

Data Setup to Write End

      

25 min

Output Active from End of Write tOW 

   5 min5 min 5 min 

Write to Output in High-Z tWHZ 

   25 max20 max20 max 10 max
  THE Z80 CPU :
TIMING
     
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